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Wednesday, February 08, 2017

Giuliani gives "circular" evidence of Muslim ban

Apparently, the Trump arguments in support of the Muslim ban was a classic case of "circular using of the words"- as frequent SNL host Melissa McCarthy made a surprise appearance on NBC's sketch-comedy show to skewer press secretary Sean Spicer's combative tone with the press. And the resemblance was uncanny.
Melissa McCarthy channels Sean Spicer and "circular words"

Spicer told reporters the Muslim order was not a "ban," even though Trump had used the word in tweets about the measure.

In the SNL skit, McCarthy said- "He's quoting you. It's your words," McCarthy told a cast member who played a reporter asking about the ban. "He's using your words when you use the words and he uses them back. It's circular using of the word, and that's from you."

Federal judges express skepticism about arguments on Trump's travel ban- Chicago Tribune

Trump's travel ban faced its toughest test as a panel of appeals court judges hammered away at the administration's claim that the ban was motivated by terrorism fears, while directing pointed questions to an attorney challenging the executive order on grounds that it unconstitutionally targeted Muslims.  Rudy Giuliani was raised by one of the judges during the conference call appeal. The hearing was conducted by phone — an unusual step. Moreover, it was broadcast live on cable networks, newspaper websites and various social media outlets. It attracted a huge audience, with more than 130,000 alone tuned in to the court's YouTube site to hear audio.

Judge Richard Clifton, a George W. Bush nominee, asked an attorney representing Washington state and Minnesota what evidence he had that the ban was motivated by religion. (The two states are suing to invalidate the ban.)

Clifton went after the government's attorney, asking whether he denied statements by Trump and former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, who said recently that Trump asked him to create a plan for a Muslim ban. Judge Michelle T. Friedland, who was appointed by President Barack Obama, asked why the case should not move forward to determine what motivated the ban?
Federal judges in the 9th District hearing the Department of Justice (DOJ) inadequate arguments to support the Trump immigrant ban called out the words of Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani: Trump asked me how to do a Muslim ban 'legally'
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said in an interview on Saturday that President Trump had previously asked him about legally implementing a "Muslim ban."

But Giuliani then disputed the notion that the president's sweeping executive order barring refugees and people from seven predominantly Muslim nations amounts to a ban on Muslims.

"I’ll tell you the whole history of it: When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban,'" Giuliani said on Fox News.

"He called me up, he said, ‘Put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally.’"

Giuliani said he then put together a commission that included lawmakers and expert lawyers.

"And what we did was we focused on, instead of religion, danger," Giuliani said.

"The areas of the world that create danger for us, which is a factual basis, not a religious basis. Perfectly legal, perfectly sensible."

Giuliani reiterated that the ban is "not based on religion."

"It's based on places where there are substantial evidence that people are sending terrorists into our country," he said.

The president on Friday signed an order that bars Syrian refugees indefinitely and halts the country's refugee resettlement program for four months. It also denies entry for 90 days to people from seven majority-Muslim countries: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and Libya.

The president on Saturday denied that the executive order was a Muslim ban. He also insisted his new administration was "totally prepared" to carry out the refugee and travel ban.

A federal judge in New York on Saturday night granted an emergency stay temporarily halting the removal of immigrants and refugees detained following Trump's order.
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Obviously, the Federal Judges in the 9th District have no patience for "circular use of words".

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